Berlusconi told a late-night talk show Wednesday that based on intelligence services, Seif Al-Arab wasn’t in Libya and is rather in another country. He didn’t elaborate.

Berlusconi told state-run RAI: “It doesn’t check out with the coalition. It seems like it’s propaganda, and that the youngest son of Qaddafi isn’t in Libya but lives in another country. Even the case of the three grandchildren seems unfounded. This is the information from our services,” according to the ANSA news agency.

NATO has never confirmed or denied the death.